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RadioA
21 August 2011 - 4:30am
I have friends that work at the Local radio station in Darwin for both Mix and Hot. There is a girl there (edited) who I'm told has had no previous radio background but we have heard her Ob's and she is a natural. Why doesn't the Radio station look at hiring on Locals with Natural talent instead of looking for radio people with years of experience which doesn't mean their the best. (Edited) Why look to hire people outside of the NT who don't know the town, people or can even pronounce the bloody suburbs correctly????? Now that Rick and Lisa are finished up, let's see what non local radio fill in will be put in place.We vote for the local men and women to be on air....why keep hiring people from out of town....GIVE THE LOCALS THE WORK PHIL! Where have all the real radio people gone?
MC
19 August 2011 - 4:30am
Oh Dear, seems another one has had enough at Mix/Hot 100 in Darwin..Jeez..how could you turn your back on the great money they pay there!! Where have all the real radio people gone?
Ty Mentemp
17 August 2011 - 4:30am
I once drove 6 hours for a job interview it was for nights in a rural town , i didn't get the job, reason, i was doing brekky at another station and the PD thought i wouldn't stick around long, all up a 12 hour trip. All that way to be told that. Radio needs to start looking after its staff, otherwise, you'll have AFTR's graduate running the show after a couple of years.

Also PD's if someone applies for a job have the courtesy to let them know they didn't get it and rather the employ has been ex reality tv stars and retired footy players,give genuine radio people a go
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R
17 August 2011 - 4:30am
Well there you go Phil, you said it perfectly, and that my friend is the reason there is a talent glut. With that attitude you deserve to get all you get or in this case....nothing, no airchecks of value.
I have worked for your network and I would be interested to know what you define as above award wage, are we talking $2000 a year?
I left regional radio five years ago to work in Sydney radio and I spoke to a friend going back into the industry to work for your network and he told me the PD told him they paid award but then excitedly told him that if he works 6 days then he could make 40k !! Here's the funny thing, I don't work half as hard as I did in the country and I earn twice and a bit more than my last regional radio gig...go figure.
I would also like to add that I think Phil is clearly not getting it.
The comments overall express a disgust with an industry that only rewards sales reps and GM's. Phil you need to take this argument to Janet Cameron and say "hey Janet, this is a big radio station here in Darwin, I need x amount of dollars to get people to come here" Reality is that station owners are about maximising profits and until there is competition in regionals then you can can forget about ever getting decent pay.
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Mr B.
17 August 2011 - 4:30am
Ha! Ha! $40K.... that was a lot of money in 1989!

Seriously, before you sign anything, make yourself aware of the award and pay particular attention to the grade, overtime and allowances sections. Ask the employer what grade/position you are being employed at.

http://www.alliance.org.au/resources/media/

Look for the Broadcasting and Recorded Entertainment award.

With your contract, never sign away your award rights unless you are being paid substantially over the award rate for your position or grade. Dont forget, an extra $1K a year only translates to an extra $15 in your pocket each week.

Discuss overtime and multi tasking at the interview and make sure that any wording in the employment agreement specifically outlines these duties and the conditions that go with them.

Don't worry that holding your employer to their agreement with you, in a businesslike manner, will blacklist you. If it does then you are dealing with an unprofessional organisation and one to avoid. Tell your friends.
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Passionate Young Radio Guy
16 August 2011 - 4:30am
"P.S Why are some of you afraid to use your real name? Why are you hiding behind a pseudonym"

Phil,

You should already know that we want to protect our identities because it might cause trouble for some of us who want to speak out, especially those who still work in your network.

" 'As a wise PD once said to me, "If you want a well paid, secure job go work in a bank"' "

So you say that to your interviewees and then wonder why they are suddenly not interested? This rings alarm bells with me. I don't think I would want to work for you if that's what your mind set is.

You say you pay above award wage? How about putting this in your job adverts? Also, 38k, even 40k is not much compared with the average Aussie wage of $1200 per week. Even though your rent appears to be a little cheaper, it is still very hard to find a cheap place in Darwin competing with all those public servants. A quick look at realestate.com.au confirms this. Take into account that most people are away from friends and family and will want to be able to afford to fly back once every couple of months or so.

The fact that you are a main boss living in a 1 bedroom studio apartment for so called cheap rent tells me that not even you are getting all that well paid by the owners of Darwin.

So how much exactly do you pay your announcers if it is so good?

The following information would be buzzing around the heads of many young jocks before applying for a job in Darwin so long as there are good people in the industry like me advising them of who to and who NOT to work for based on our experience.

In recent times (edited by moderator), you have lost a Journo, a work day announcer on Hot100, 2 breakfast announcers from mix and 1 from hot. I’m sure there are more people on this board that will confirm that info if the recent job adverts are anything to go by.

Anybody see the elephant in the room?
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Mr B.
16 August 2011 - 4:30am
I began working in commercial radio in 1982. It was a regional class station and it was prety clear from the get-go that I would be not only doing my regular job but also find myself obliged to do unpaid work as well. If I contrasted my situation with my contemporaries I noticed that it was unknown for most of them to work unpaid for even half an hour.

For some reason, award or no award, radio station operators have always believed that the "magic" would compensate us more than adequately for any work that we did outside our agreements. The other situation that was manifestly obvious to me at this time and has pretty much held true for every station I have ever worked for is that radio as a business provides a very meagre return on investmet. All radio stations are poor, almost to the point of being charity cases and the fact that you're being paid at all is a small miracle. This, of course, was and still is, utter bu11sh!t.

It was an enjoyable environment though and for all of you who doubt that radio was more fun in the 80's and 90's I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it was. Most stations had more staff and the atmosphere was much more upbeat. The rot set in in the late 80's with the recession. Accountants took over the top management of stations and networks. Radio took on 'Chainsaw' Al Dunlap's "downsizing" idea with gusto and in later years when Dunlap retracted the entire concept saying "I was wrong, how can you grow your business if you're losing key employees?" Radio didn't get it.


As the years have progresed I have had reason to work in a country station or two and seen the utterly punishing hours worked by people in these understaffed, badly run businesses. Is this what you need "passionate" radio people for? Do you need them to work 80 hours a week for 40 hours pay? Try that in any other business! On top of that, the pay that you get for your bloated working week is almost laughably low, especially in regional and country stations.

I remember a chat I had with the PD at my current station a while back regarding running costs and how they have changed. When I began in radio, it was almost unheard of for a station to run without a technician, many had two. Every week there were consumables for tape machines and other costs that now, thanks to computer production and playout systems, no longer exist. No production assistant in cart prep and practically all of the announcers have another role off air that used to be a full time position for another employee. Yet still stations cry poor,offer urealistically low wages and oblige staff to work unpaid for hours a week. What a great industry.

I could rattle on about all this for ever but in closing I'd just like to draw a comparison to a business run by a friend of mine. My mate runs a very successful PA hire and installation business and has a dedicated staff of around twelve. The work is sometimes very physically demanding and unsurprisingly involves a lot of unsociable hours. Jobs rarely run to neat shifts of eight hours either. My friend would never conceive of obliging his staff to work unpaid. Every hour worked is an hour paid. Why? Because he needs every one of his experienced staff to keep his business running. One missing staff member could throw months of pre-planned work into chaos. Not so in a radio station. Just because the staff levels are inadequate doesn't mean there's less work to get done. The work is just spread out to the nearest person who will have had to learn a skill on the job to cover a missing staff member and as long as that person bears up with two or three roles, everything is just tickety-boo.

Good thing AFTRS chugs out a new class of eager young kids every year eh?
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Passionate Young Radio Guy
16 August 2011 - 4:30am
The answer is simple. Offer more money and at the same time, not a station full of equipment that is always breaking down.

My last 2 stations were like this and it was very difficult to use a play out system that was always crashing and an editor/internet computer that was next to un-usable.

GM & PD didn’t want to know about it. I got blamed instead. Hello people skills?

Sales people get all the money and on air staff are expected to do more multi tasking than a teenager who works part time at a fast food place.

It's no surprise that the radio people aren’t coming through. All of a sudden getting paid 70k to drive a truck is not a bad idea.

What does Phil need to do? Pay more than 35k, upgrade the station and treat your staff like gold, make them feel special, arouse enthusiasm and don’t hire bitchy prima donna’s that will drag the rest of the team down.

That last point is a big one........a really big one.

These are all points that owners of the family owned regional networks don't want to hear and I don't understand the point of writing this article as nothing is going to change their minds.
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Phil Brandel
16 August 2011 - 4:30am
Hey Radio guy not sure where you got your numbers from? I live in a 1 bedroom studio apartment in the city and I don't pay anywhere near that in rent. My last electricity bill was only about $250 for the quarter.
Also in Darwin we pay above the award rate and most Jocks have the whole weekend off (except for OB's)

As a wise PD once said to me, "If you want a well paid, secure job go work in a bank"
But everyone can stop worrying, I will be announcing new appoinments soon.

Cheers
Phil Brandel Hot100/Mix1049

P.S Why are some of you afraid to use your real name? Why are you hiding behind a pseudonym/

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angela beston
16 August 2011 - 4:30am
I read with interest regarding Phil Brandel's story.

Unfortunately I am not of the same belief.

My Husband and I returned to Australia after spending 4 years in New Zealand. My Husband has a solid radio career spanning 20 years he has so much knowledge under his belt that he would leave these young pups for dead, and no he is not ready for the retirement home. After countless job applications sent to PD's here in Australia only to be either ignored, or told no your not what we are looking for.

He was not trying to gain employment in a metro market he knew he would have to start in a regional/provincial market and work up, he is so passionate about radio he was making his own radio shows at home at the age of nine, radio is the only career he has been committed to all his life.

He did apply for a position in Darwin sometime back before Phil was on board and was told in no uncertain terms "you will not cut it in Australia" He is now working in Muswellbrook - (On air, Copy, Assist: Production, back up PD) and loving it.

I don't always think it is the applicant I think we need to look at some of the "young pups" that are put into PD roles that really don't have the experience or the people skills to see good talent when it hits them in the face.
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